It’s about the journey, not the destination. Payback Time is a podcast that dives into the real story behind the person. How did they build their business? What challenges did they overcome? What mistakes did they make? And how did they achieve their goals? The overall objective is to provide you with a roadmap that leads to success. This podcast will streamline your learning curve.






Gary Wilson – Retired by Age 40 with Real Estate Investing
Imagine retiring by age 40 but wishing you would have taken action earlier so you could have retired by age 30. My next guest has been investing in real estate most of his professional working career. We walk through the circumstances that put him on this path at a...
Clayton Allen – Day Trading is not for the Faint of Heart
Have you ever thought about day trading stocks? Those who know me understand that I’m not a fan of trading. It’s high risk and over 90% of people lose money doing it. In most cases, you’re better off going to the Casino. At least they’ll serve you free drinks...
Nicholas Hinrichsen – Auto Industry Tech Entrepreneur
My next guest co-founded a company called Carlypso after graduating from Stanford Business School in 2013. He went through YCombinator (same startup accelerator as AirBnb, DoorDash, Stripe, Reddit etc). He Raised a total of $10M in venture funding by 2015 and sold...
Zach Jensen – Amazon Account Management
My next guest is a young entrepreneur who found a niche in the Amazon account management space. He helps Amazon sellers achieve more freedom by managing their supply chain and customer service. Although his business is a service business, he’s applied his...
Dwaine Clarke – Commercial Real Estate
Have you ever thought about owning real estate? How about owning real estate where your tenant signs a contract for 5, 10, and sometimes 15 years? The thought of having a low risk and long term tenant is pretty much a dream in this space. But check this out… My...
Anthony Colarusso – Sales as a Service + Real Estate
My next guest took his background in supply chain and applied it to sales processes. He created a highly scalable service business that generates leads for other organizations. He talks about a very conservative approach to starting a business in the beginning but...
Paul Neuberger – Insurance + Cold Call Coaching
Cold calling. I don’t know about you, but I don’t exactly roll out of bed with motivation to cold call. As for our next guest, it’s not only something he loves, but something he’s great at. He first discovered the craft in college and by the time he graduated, he...
Ashley Altum – Accounting as a Service
Ashley Altum achieved the dream of helping build and sell a business at a relatively young age. She then took the profits of that sale and invested in another business that unfortunately ended up being a pretty big failure. After losing a lot of money and feeling down...
Curtis May – Insurance and Financial Services
Curtis May is an insurance and financial services professional with over 20+ years experience. On the surface, insurance isn't exactly a glamorous business model but it's a necessity! It's also a recurring revenue model. If you want to become an entrepreneur, this...
Agostino Pintus – Multifamily Syndication
Agostino Pintus is a multifamily investor, syndicator, and entrepreneur with more than 15 years of experience in real estate. He currently oversees strategic partnerships, capital development, and platform development for Realty Dynamics Equity Partners, an investment...
Chad Heeter – Lease to Own Property Investing
Chad Heeter has an inspirational story of overcoming the loss of a loved one. With two children at home, he knew he needed a career that provided freedom. In this case, he turned his attention to real estate investing. His specialty is Lease to Own...
Noah Garrett – Auto Industry Tech Startup
Noah Garrett is the co-founder of True Repair, a tech startup that is streamlines the auto repair industry.Contact Noah [email protected] You may listen to episodes on…
Nick Guenther – SEM – Real Estate – Membership
Nick Guenther has established an SEM (Search Engine Marketing) agency as well as real estate rental income. He put himself into a position where he could travel for several months at any instance while leveraged income continues to roll in. Now he's turned his...
Matt Riordan – IT Professional – Scrum Master
Matt Riordan is an IT Professional who managed to remove tens of thousands of dollars of debt within two years. Now, being debt free, he has the high ground and the opportunity to create leveraged income with very little risk.Contact Matt [email protected] You...
Jeremy Cherny – IT Managed Services
Jeremy Cherny owns an IT Managed Services company. He founded the company in the 1990s and put himself in a position where he could step away from the business and it will essentially operate on it's own due to the team he's put in place.Contact Jeremy...
Bryan Gardner – Ecommerce – Sold Multiple Businesses
Bryan Gardner is a serial entrepreneur who has built and sold multiple ecommerce businesses. He achieved FIRE (Financial Independence Retire Early) in his mid-twenties.Contact Bryan atgetcoopt.com You may listen to episodes on…
Chris Yogerst – Professor + Author
Chris Yogerst, Ph. D. is a Professor of Communications as well as a published author. In this episodes he breaks down the steps required to research, write, publish, and market a book. Contact Chris on Twitter at @chrisyogerst You may listen to episodes on…
Ryan Mehaffey – Consulting
Ryan Mehaffey serves SMEs (Small and Mid-Sized Enterprises) and in select cases he applies is consulting skills to online based businesses for equity in return, which has proven to generate leveraged income.Contact Ryan athttps://www.feastoverfamine.org You may...
Lori Highby – Marketing Firm + Public Speaking + Professor
Lori Highby owns a marketing firm, she's a public speaker, and she's an adjunct professor at a local university. All three work together giving her compounded results. She has a plan to retire early and you'll hear, she's well on her way. Contact Lori at...
Leanne Pressly – Marketing Firm + Real Estate + Stock Investing
Leanne Pressly owns a marketing firm, real estate, and is also a self-directed investor. In this episode we talk about why it's so important to find a niche audience and be GREAT at serving that audience. Contact Leanne at https://stitchcraftmarketing.com You may...
Kody Aulenbacher – Recruiting + Furniture Company + Apparel
Kody Aulenbacher is a serial entrepreneur who owns a recruiting firm, furniture company, and apparel company. He's currently in the position where he's trading his time for dollars but he's making moves to establish leveraged income. Contact Kody at...
Shawn Cannon – FBA + Coaching + Board Game
Shawn Cannon has established leveraged income with FBA (Fulfillment By Amazon). He also owns a coaching business associated with FBA where he helps individuals get started and scale their own FBA businesses. He recently sold his shares in a business that developed a...
Dhruv Patel – IT Firm + Email Marketing
Dhruv Patel is the owner of Redspark, an IT Firm that develops custom software, mobile applications, and websites. He also owns a hands-off service business where a team builds email marketing templates for Mailchimp and Constant Contact. This is a perfect example of...